Re: Virginia preps regarding Phil Robbins
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I don't know Phil Robbins personally so I really can't judge him.
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This being your first sentence, how can you then make these following comments? I just added the "highlights" of your posting, but one could point at the entire post if they wanted to do so.
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Phil obviously just speaks his mind regardless of who hears it. Phil is a man who expects hard work, dedication and alot out of his players. I have been to other schools and let me tell you, those coaches say worse than what I have ever heard Phil say. I wish more coaches had his attributes as far as coaching goes.
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I thought you said you didn't know him? Sounds like you are drawing conclusions or you actually do know him. Either way, you contradicted yourself more than once.
Re: Virginia preps regarding Phil Robbins
No I don't know him personally. I just made my comments based on what comments he has said. Yes he sounds arrogant and with an attitude he don't care what people think about him. But that don't mean he is a man who should be thrown out of coaching. The best way to determine if Phil should keep coaching is leave that decision up to his players. All of my comments were based upon what he has said out in the open for all to hear and also what some of his players have said on this board about how they feel about him. No one disagrees on how he can't accept defeat. I think the big question is should he still coach.
Re: Virginia preps regarding Phil Robbins
I'll agree that Robbins knows his stuff. But you can't deny the fact he has a supply of talent only Gate City can rival. If he's so great, could he have done the same with a Pound or Appy team with vastly smaller numbers? I don't think so. Should he still coach? I don't think so. But leave it up to the players? No. Those are teenagers we're talking about. I say leave it up to the players' parents. Phil has an attitude, no doubt. And the most disturbing part of it is that it tends to spill over into his players. Where do you think they got that "We're PV, we're the best, and we can't be beat" cocky attitude from? Ma and Pa didn't teach 'em that. I know, I graduated from PV and had that slight attitude problem. And I never noticed I did until I started following the Appy program. I've also heard that a former TE of Phil's and current Appy assistant has made comments similar to mine. But I also heard he once said he was coaching at the wrong school. You know how heresay goes. You be the judge.
Re: Virginia preps regarding Phil Robbins
You may be right about everything you said. Like I said I don't know Phil Robbins only when I see him at the games. I know of some kids from PV who have told me they would never play for him. I don't know what goes on in PV or on the practice field with just him and his players. Maybe it is worse than what all that we have heard. Only his players and the parents know that. I believe he has some good coaching skills but like I said before if there is more than what has been said then your right the parents need to step in and do something about it. I don't care either way what they do. PV has alot more to choose from in sports I will agree. Could Phil take a small school and do just as good, I don't know. He probably would never want to even coach a small school where talent isn't there as much as a bigger school. If he ever said he was at the wrong school then let him leave he knows where the door is. As far as PV kids having an attitude that they are better than everyone else well every school has some that act cocky. Also from every town there are some parents who act like this too. They are teenagers like you said and really it may be annoying but it is a sport and too much can be put into it.
Re: Virginia preps regarding Phil Robbins
Re: Virginia preps regarding Phil Robbins
I think its a mute point to argue who has the players and the talent vs coaching. Unless you have talented players, all the coaching in the world wont help. Unless you can coach well the most talented players will go to waste. regardless of school or not, you just have to look around our own league. Do you think Coach Shupe is any less of a coach? He had guys throwing in the high 80's low 90's. guys hitting the ball into the driving range at Shupe field, but without his coaching along with his most important asset his assistants, turned talent into planks of wood. Coach Turner has had some of the most talented teams in SWVA, does that make him any less a coach? I dont think so, he harbors that style of give me some talent and Ill make them give me more then they thought they ever could.
I agree with Mega, Coach Robbins, reminds me alot of Spurrier, he says things because in all honesty, he can. People put as much stock into what hhe says as they want too. Grain of salt or a 2 page topic on a message board. Regardless, it sparks debate.
Re: Virginia preps regarding Phil Robbins
I don't see how anybody can call Haysi a "great team". They got this big build up just for beating PV, probably the youngest playoff team in the state. Haysi will fall. SOON and HARD.
Re: Virginia preps regarding Phil Robbins
Good point, it takes coaching and players. Look at the other sports at PV they have the same great athletes that Coach Robbins has and the other sports are no where near the level of the football program. I disagree with him on the whole home field thing, it should be played at the highest seed. I said this in 03 I guess it was when people talked of playing it at Wise. To the people on here who posted about him not caring about his players, I can honestly say your badly mistaken. There is no doubt in my mind that with the 18 seniors we lost in 04 that he doesn't know exactly what each and everyone of them is doing. The man his faults but dont we all, am I any less of a person because I fuss and cuss at officials at ball games? I'd take him over any other coach around here in any sport. The reference to Shupe was a good one, they are pretty similar. Granted I've not spent as much time with Shupe but how they come off is pretty much the same way. You all act like cokiness is a bad thing, but stop and think for a second. Have you ever seen a great coach, player, gm, owner, or whatever that wasn't cocky? My friend biggin and I play rook together, and I'll take us against anybody in the world. Is that cocky? Yes, but I think you have to think that way when you go into play. Some of the fans from schools who dont like his attitude might need to stop and look out onto the field, I guarantee you this if he was your alls head coach the players would think they were going to win. Theres not a time that we ever played when I didn't think we had a chance and to me when your dealing with teenagers that means a lot. My final point on this is if you dont think he cares about his players look at what some of his ex players are doing after football, I understand he's not totally responsible but I think some good citizens have been turned out of the PV Football Program.
Re: Virginia preps regarding Phil Robbins
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Heck I could have won State with the Jones guys...So what does that say?
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Honestly I have no idea of your knowledge of the game of football. You probably know quite a bit and even if you did win with the Jones Brothers do you think you could've won the other three? Could you have called plays that would allowed your team to drive down the field and win a state title game by one point? Like I said I really dont know your knowledge of the game but I dont know of many people that have done that.
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Trust me I know alot about the game of football...I never said anything about the other three...I was saying I'd say alot of people including all the coaches in the LPD could have won titles with Thomas and Julius...Including myself. Don't you think you could have?